You'll remember the other day I came upon the pair of belly-bandless Red-tails and I thought I might have seen a nest. As promised I went back to look again.
In fact once again I found the pair of belly-bandless Red tailed Hawks, one above, but as it was a different time of day and the area where I thought I saw what might be a nest wasn't back lit, I wasn't able to see the mystery blob in the tree at all.
I'll keep looking.
Suddenly the hawk looked over one shoulder, I saw something out of the corner of my eye..
The mate had flown to a new perch. Look carefully just left of center, partly obscured by a large branch, there's our other band-less buddy. It seemed to me that previously Ohio Red-tail expert John Blakeman had mentioned that a Red-tailed Hawk without a belly band was an older hawk but I wondered just how much older we were talking about plus one of the hawks had something odd going on with her tail so I wanted John's opinion on that as well. Time out. A pictorial memory freshener coming up.
Here are the pair of Red-tailed Hawks without bellybands. Also note the tail on the hawk to the right. See the left red tail feather is shorter than the white undertail plus why is the red showing so clearly from the underside of the hawk in regards to the feather in question?
Here is another photo from February 20th from a different angle. The left red feather is still visible and though it may be a peculiarity of the photograph, the top of the tail feathers on the right appear completely white.
Odd. Next, as promised, Mr. Blakeman addresses our questions of the last few days regarding the toleration or non-toleration by Bald Eagles of Red-tailed Hawks in their territory, belly-bandless Red-tails, and his thoughts on the odd tail.
The white-breasted RT in your photos is almost surely a very mature
haggard, probably 10 yr+. I've never once seen among all the falconry Red-tails
I've encountered a white-breasted, belly-bandless RT of any young or moderate
age. In fact, I never recall seeing a pure white-breasted falconry RT; I think
because falconry Red-tails seldom live (or are retained) until the second
The tail situation is indiscernible. The feather lengths should be equal in
winter, as the molt and new feathers are not progressing.
Cold here again this week, in the mid-20s at day, mid teens at night. Not
seeing any winter immatures this year. Only a few experienced haggards who spent
the winter here will survive. Persistent snow makes hunting for voles
RTs, like all the Bald Eagles, will be searching for and feeding on deer
roadkill, which is the primary food for winter BEs here on Lake Erie. The lake
is essentially frozen over, so no fish can be taken. BEs are surviving (nicely)
on roadkill deer.
BEs will from time to time expropriate an RT nest and make it bigger. But
the hawks will just go a moderate distance (usually less than half a mile), and
build and use a new nest, without any predation or conflict from the eagles.
Different matter in the West with Golden Eagles, who will kill RTs when on
prey --- as falconers out there know. Lots of falconry Red-tails killed by
Golden Eagles when the hawks are down on newly-caught prey. Bald Eagles pay no
But when I was hunting with my Red-tail, and she saw a Bald Eagle flying
along a half-mile away, she stopped hunting and just watched the eagle, until it
flew out of vision. Red-tails are always attentive to eagles in their field of
view, and they always want to be certain that the eagle expresses no untoward
intents; probably a behavior impressed genetically upon the hawks by Golden
But Bald Eagles have little interest in pursuing hawks.
Many thanks John for sharing your expertise and I'm glad to hear that Bald Eagles have no urges to do in their Red-tailed neighbors.
Speaking of Eagles enjoying the bounty of road killed deer, some of you will remember that on my previous trip when I first saw the band-less pair, on my way home I saw another Red-tailed Hawk fly up out of the area under a small bridge just outside of town. I went back to see just what she might have been doing down there and discovered a deer carcass.
One of the road killed deer we have just been talking about as a mainstay of Bald Eagles, also is feeding some of the Red-tailed Hawk population as well as numerous other species.
Not far from town I saw another Red-tailed Hawk in the sky heading back toward the country.
That Red-tail looked similar to the one that had been feeding on the carcass so I stopped again at the little bridge where I had seen the deer carcass previously to have another look.
Where I had seen a complete carcass two days previously, there was nothing but a stain on the snow with dozens of tracks leading to it.
That was fast!
When I went back up, I realized that there were two remnants of the carcass that had been abandoned on the verges of the road.
On the right, was an about 8 inch scrap of deer hide.
On the left side of the road lay a single deer hoof.
The rest of the deer had kept many a creature well fed and perhaps in some cases alive for the last 2 cruelly cold days and nights.
Now what was that in the topic line about a little walking bird?
Earlier in the day, while I'd been waiting for the Red-tailed pair to make themselves seen, I'd looked over into the field and seen a smallish brown bird walking amongst the old corn stalks.
I had no idea beyond an inkling that it was some kind of prairie bird. Nothing I'd seen in a very long time and I couldn't come up with it.
She reminded me of a Meadowlark, but she wasn't.
She'd been pecking around in that area and suddenly came up with a kernel of corn in her beak.
She turned to the side and ate it.
She then turned back to me with a look that said, "And what do you want?"
Looking down as she did, I too spied the piece of corn laying there.
Then she gave me another version of "What do you want?". I was bothering her. I turned away and started flicking through her photographs...what was she?
Then I found a photograph that jogged my memory because it was the only one with the detail I needed for the epiphany and though it was out of focus...
I could still see her horns.
She's a Horned Lark.
P.S. Stay tuned, Quicksilver the African Grey Parrot has started guarding the white chest of drawers and flying at my head when I'm in the laundry room.
Today I had to deliver some eagle photos I'd taken at Indian Ford to the Edgerton Reporter, the newspaper in the town near, obviously, the location of the Edgerton Eagle nest. After the drop off I zipped off to see how that pair was faring.
This nest is fronted by a large open area, part field and nearest to the nest, a frozen marsh. It was 20 degrees but with the wind chill the "real feel" was 5.
I didn't see any eagles on the nest when I arrived, and though I was at least a quarter of a mile away, just off the road, before I'd gotten the tripod and scope out of the car to digiscope nor turned on my regular camera, both eagles came from behind me, out of the sun, and hot winged it for the nest.
The first eagle is just in the frame, top center.
The second which has also come in from directly behind me then swung wide to the right and disappeared into the trees.
While I was looking for the eagle who'd gone into the treeline on the right, when I looked again at the nest they'd both managed to land on it unobserved. See the two white heads?
Then Dad gets up on his observation branch while Mom appears to be doing something with the nest. Yes that is Dad up on the branch. He is remarkably smaller than Mom.
Mom's tail sticks up mid nest. No question she is doing some twig work on the nest.
Then Mom gets up on some perpendicular branches and peers down looking into the bowl likely critiquing her previous rearrangement of twigs.
Then I must have been fiddling with the camera, one can't really see anything on the nest with the naked eye, except an occasional bump of something against the sky. In this case I see one blotch of white so either the other is invisible in the bowl or has flown off while I was distracted.
The Eagle Saga continues but we've got lots of contributor input and insights concerning the last few days adventures and conversations....
Jackie of Oklahoma sent a clip from a 2008 eagles'
I ran across a similar incident, this one at the Delta 1 nest in
2008. Looks like the same sort of thing took place, with the youngster clamping
down on the adult's feathers and getting "flipped." (Just after the 3 minute
Also, I'd thrown the question out asking if anyone knew what the rough distance of toleration might be between a Red-tailed Hawk nest and that of of Bald Eagles. Sally of Kentucky jumped on the case and here is what she found out....
was asking the folks on the IWS.org eagle cams chat about hawk and
eagle nests, and they have not heard of one closer than 1-2 miles.
Rurals hawks would defend a mile or so anyway, wouldn't they? So it
seems reasonable that they would be at least that far apart. Can't find
out how close eagles will nest to each other when the space is saturated
but they seem to think several miles apart. Perhaps that helps? How
close is the "hawk nest" to the eagles?
Yes those figures definitely help Sally. Thank you. I really had no
spatial idea as to even a ballpark figure. I would guess that RTs would
defend at least a mile or as you suggest two depending on the amount of space needed for hunting.
not sure about the distance between the two but will try to get a
better idea next time I'm there.
Tough going as there is a meandering
river and not much in the way of public access, as it's all upscale
private land so one has to stay on the public roads. Dicey to do any
"as the crow flies" walkabouts. :)
And from Robin of Illinois, the link for the Blackwater Eagles who have just hatched their first egg of the season.